#1: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: JamesBianco, Location: Agawam, Massachusetts, USAPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:17 am ----
I have just tonight located an obituary which brings us back one generation further in determining the French Canadian Ancestry of Actress Angelina Jolie.
This is the first breakthrough in years, as very little is online regarding her mother's family. Here is Angelina's maternal grandmother's 1973 obituary.
using this information I was able to piece the following together:
Marcheline Bertrand Voight (1st wife of Actor John Voight, parents of Angelina Jolie)
born 9 May 1950 Riverdale, Illinois
died 27 January 2007
daughter of:
Rolland F. Bertrand
born 11 June 1923
died 8 April 1985
and his wife
Lois June Gowens
born 14 February 1928 Cook County, Illinois
died 11 Nov 1973 Beverly Hills, California
This is where I am currently stuck, the Bertrand line certainly originates in Quebec, but unfortunately the 1930 US Census does not readily produce a candidate to be either of these two people.
If anyone out there has any ideas or possible leads, please post your finds here. This is the first time anywhere on the Internet the parents of Angelina's mother Marcheline are listed.
#2: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: JamesBianco, Location: Agawam, Massachusetts, USAPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:59 pm ---- It appears now that Angelina Joli was named by her mother for her own grandmother Angelina/Angeline.
Rolland Bertrand (above) born 1923 died 1985 was most certainly the son of
George Bertrand born 1889 Illinois, son of French Canadian Immigrants
married Angelina born 4 Dec 1895 Canada
died September 1981 Riverdale, Cook County, Illinois
children:
Lillian Bertrand born about 1914
Stella Bertrand born about 1917
Elmer Bertrand born about 1918
Paul Bertrand born about 1920
AND Rollin (Rolland) Bertrand born 1923
here is the 1930 census for this family from Cook County, Illinois
#3: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: JamesBianco, Location: Agawam, Massachusetts, USAPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:02 pm ---- Given his WWI Draft registration, George has now been identified as:
George Bertrand, born 9 April 1889 Goodrich, Kanakee Co., Illinois
died September 1962, Riverdale, Illinois.
son of Louis Bertrand & Delia Mayette.
Which ties her into a line already established here.
scroll down to the 6th child.
and here is the information on Angelina's immigrant Bertrand ancestor!!
Mystery solved.
#4: The final product: Author: JamesBianco, Location: Agawam, Massachusetts, USAPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:15 pm ----
Marcheline (Bertrand) Voight and her daughter Angelina Jolie
Marcheline's French Canadian Ancestry
Generation No. 1
1. Marcheline BERTRAND, born 09 May 1950 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois. She was the daughter of 2. Rolland F. BERTRAND and 3. Lois June GOWENS.
Generation No. 2
2. Rolland F. BERTRAND, born 11 Jun 1923; died 08 Apr 1985. He was the son of 4. George BERTRAND and 5. Angeline. He married 3. Lois June GOWENS Abt. 1949 in Riverdale, Illinois.
3. Lois June GOWENS, born 14 Feb 1928 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois; died 11 Nov 1973 in Beverley Hills, California.
Child of Rolland BERTRAND and Lois GOWENS is:
1 i. Marcheline BERTRAND, born 09 May 1950 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois.
Generation No. 3
4. George BERTRAND, born 09 Apr 1889 in Goodrich, Kanakee County, Illinois; died Sep 1962 in Riverdale, Cook, Illinois. He was the son of 8. Louis BERTRAND and 9. Delina MAYETTE. He married 5. Angeline 1913.
5. Angeline, born 04 Dec 1895 in Quebec; died Sep 1981 in Riverdale, Cook, Illinois.
Child of George BERTRAND and Angeline is:
2 i. Rolland F. BERTRAND, born 11 Jun 1923; died 08 Apr 1985; married Lois June GOWENS Abt. 1949 in Riverdale, Illinois.
Generation No. 4
8. Louis BERTRAND, born 04 Oct 1850. He was the son of 16. Leon BERTRAND and 17. Marie-Aglae PERRAULT. He married 9. Delina MAYETTE 06 Jan 1876 in Kanakee County, Illinois.
9. Delina MAYETTE
Child of Louis BERTRAND and Delina MAYETTE is:
4 i. George BERTRAND, born 09 Apr 1889 in Goodrich, Kanakee County, Illinois; died Sep 1962 in Riverdale, Cook, Illinois; married Angeline 1913.
Generation No. 5
16. Leon BERTRAND, born 06 Aug 1823 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec; died 16 Aug 1893 in Pilot , Kanakee, Illinois. He was the son of 32. Jean-Baptiste BERTRAND and 33. Marie-Marguerite JETTE. He married 17. Marie-Aglae PERRAULT 23 Jul 1844 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec.
17. Marie-Aglae PERRAULT, died Bef. 1883. She was the daughter of 34. Basile PERRAULT and 35. Marcelline LEVESQUE.
Child of Leon BERTRAND and Marie-Aglae PERRAULT is:
8 i. Louis BERTRAND, born 04 Oct 1850; married Delina MAYETTE 06 Jan 1876 in Kanakee County, Illinois.
Generation No. 6
32. Jean-Baptiste BERTRAND, born 08 Aug 1798 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec. He was the son of 64. Joseph-Marie BERTRAND and 65. Marie-Judith CHAPUT. He married 33. Marie-Marguerite JETTE 29 Oct 1822 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec.
33. Marie-Marguerite JETTE She was the daughter of 66. Paul JETTE and 67. Marie-Louise ROBILLARD.
Child of Jean-Baptiste BERTRAND and Marie-Marguerite JETTE is:
16 i. Leon BERTRAND, born 06 Aug 1823 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec; died 16 Aug 1893 in Pilot , Kanakee, Illinois; married Marie-Aglae PERRAULT 23 Jul 1844 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec.
34. Basile PERRAULT He married 35. Marcelline LEVESQUE.
35. Marcelline LEVESQUE
Child of Basile PERRAULT and Marcelline LEVESQUE is:
17 i. Marie-Aglae PERRAULT, died Bef. 1883; married Leon BERTRAND 23 Jul 1844 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec.
Generation No. 7
64. Joseph-Marie BERTRAND, born 23 May 1772 in L'Assomption, Quebec; died 12 Mar 1848 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec. He was the son of 128. Francois BERTRAND and 129. Marie-Anne LIZOT. He married 65. Marie-Judith CHAPUT 13 Jun 1794 in Saint-Roch, L'Achigan, Quebec.
65. Marie-Judith CHAPUT She was the daughter of 130. Pierre CHAPUT and 131. Marie-Catherine MARTEL.
Child of Joseph-Marie BERTRAND and Marie-Judith CHAPUT is:
32 i. Jean-Baptiste BERTRAND, born 08 Aug 1798 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec; married Marie-Marguerite JETTE 29 Oct 1822 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec.
66. Paul JETTE He married 67. Marie-Louise ROBILLARD.
67. Marie-Louise ROBILLARD
Child of Paul JETTE and Marie-Louise ROBILLARD is:
33 i. Marie-Marguerite JETTE, married Jean-Baptiste BERTRAND 29 Oct 1822 in Saint Jacques de Montcalm, Quebec.
Generation No. 8
128. Francois BERTRAND, born Abt. 1750; died 20 Jul 1813 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec. He was the son of 256. Jean-Francois BERTRAND and 257. Marie-Louise MARIGNY. He married 129. Marie-Anne LIZOT 12 Aug 1771 in L'assomption, Quebec.
129. Marie-Anne LIZOT She was the daughter of 258. Nicholas LIZOT and 259. Marie LAHAIE.
Child of Francois BERTRAND and Marie-Anne LIZOT is:
64 i. Joseph-Marie BERTRAND, born 23 May 1772 in L'Assomption, Quebec; died 12 Mar 1848 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec; married Marie-Judith CHAPUT 13 Jun 1794 in Saint-Roch, L'Achigan, Quebec.
130. Pierre CHAPUT He married 131. Marie-Catherine MARTEL.
131. Marie-Catherine MARTEL
Child of Pierre CHAPUT and Marie-Catherine MARTEL is:
65 i. Marie-Judith CHAPUT, married Joseph-Marie BERTRAND 13 Jun 1794 in Saint-Roch, L'Achigan, Quebec.
Generation No. 9
256. Jean-Francois BERTRAND, born 23 Sep 1720 in Notre-Dame-La-Annonciation, Quebec; died 10 Aug 1797 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec. He was the son of 512. Francois BERTRAND and 513. Marie-Madeleine MEUNIER. He married 257. Marie-Louise MARIGNY 23 Apr 1748 in Saint-Charles Borromee, Quebec.
257. Marie-Louise MARIGNY She was the daughter of 514. Nicholas MORIGNY and 515. Marie LABRIE.
Child of Jean-Francois BERTRAND and Marie-Louise MARIGNY is:
128 i. Francois BERTRAND, born Abt. 1750; died 20 Jul 1813 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec; married Marie-Anne LIZOT 12 Aug 1771 in L'assomption, Quebec.
258. Nicholas LIZOT He married 259. Marie LAHAIE.
259. Marie LAHAIE
Child of Nicholas LIZOT and Marie LAHAIE is:
129 i. Marie-Anne LIZOT, married Francois BERTRAND 12 Aug 1771 in L'assomption, Quebec.
Generation No. 10
512. Francois BERTRAND, born 15 Mar 1689 in Charlesbourg, Quebec; died 02 Aug 1736 in Quebec, Quebec. He was the son of 1024. Jean BERTRAND and 1025. Marguerite TESSIER. He married 513. Marie-Madeleine MEUNIER 14 Oct 1719 in L'ancienne Loret, Quebec.
513. Marie-Madeleine MEUNIER She was the daughter of 1026. Mathurin MEUNIER and 1027. Marie Madeleine MENEUX.
Child of Francois BERTRAND and Marie-Madeleine MEUNIER is:
256 i. Jean-Francois BERTRAND, born 23 Sep 1720 in Notre-Dame-La-Annonciation, Quebec; died 10 Aug 1797 in Saint-Roch L'Achigan, Quebec; married Marie-Louise MARIGNY 23 Apr 1748 in Saint-Charles Borromee, Quebec.
514. Nicholas MORIGNY He married 515. Marie LABRIE.
515. Marie LABRIE
Child of Nicholas MORIGNY and Marie LABRIE is:
257 i. Marie-Louise MARIGNY, married Jean-Francois BERTRAND 23 Apr 1748 in Saint-Charles Borromee, Quebec.
Generation No. 11
1024. Jean BERTRAND, born Abt. 1650 in Bourg de Matha, Saintonge, France; died 16 Feb 1709 in Montreal, Quebec. He was the son of 2048. Jean BERTRAND and 2049. Renee BOUCHEROT. He married 1025. Marguerite TESSIER 10 Sep 1685 in Charlesbourg, Quebec.
1025. Marguerite TESSIER She was the daughter of 2050. Marc TESSIER and 2051. Jacquette LEDOUX.
Child of Jean BERTRAND and Marguerite TESSIER is:
512 i. Francois BERTRAND, born 15 Mar 1689 in Charlesbourg, Quebec; died 02 Aug 1736 in Quebec, Quebec; married Marie-Madeleine MEUNIER 14 Oct 1719 in L'ancienne Loret, Quebec.
1026. Mathurin MEUNIER, born 03 Dec 1649 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was the son of 2052. Mathurin MEUNIER and 2053. Francoise FAFART. He married 1027. Marie Madeleine MENEUX 22 Nov 1684 in Sainte Famille, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada.
1027. Marie Madeleine MENEUX, born Abt. 1669 in Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada; died 23 Mar 1703 in L'Ancienne Loret, Quebec, Canada. She was the daughter of 2054. Jacques MENEUX and 2055. Marguerite PEUVRIER.
Children of Mathurin MEUNIER and Marie MENEUX are:
i. Marguerite MEUNIER, born 17 Dec 1685 in Beaupre, Quebec, Canada; died 11 Feb 1743 in L'Ancienne Lorette, Quebec; married Pierre BOUVIER 30 Jan 1702 in Sainte Anne, Quebec, Canada; born 12 Oct 1675 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada; died 16 Mar 1715 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada.
513 ii. Marie-Madeleine MEUNIER, married Francois BERTRAND 14 Oct 1719 in L'ancienne Loret, Quebec.
Generation No. 12
2048. Jean BERTRAND He married 2049. Renee BOUCHEROT.
2049. Renee BOUCHEROT
Child of Jean BERTRAND and Renee BOUCHEROT is:
1024 i. Jean BERTRAND, born Abt. 1650 in Bourg de Matha, Saintonge, France; died 16 Feb 1709 in Montreal, Quebec; married Marguerite TESSIER 10 Sep 1685 in Charlesbourg, Quebec.
2050. Marc TESSIER, born 1642 in Sainte Hermine, FontenayLeComte, Lucon Poitou, France; died 22 Mar 1709 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada. He was the son of 4100. Michel TESSIER and 4101. Renee GORON. He married 2051. Jacquette LEDOUX 26 Nov 1668 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada.
2051. Jacquette LEDOUX, born 1640 in Esnandes, La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 09 Sep 1690 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada. She was the daughter of 4102. Jean LEDOUX and 4103. Jeanne HIOUT.
Children of Marc TESSIER and Jacquette LEDOUX are:
i. Pierre TESSIER, born 04 May 1679 in Petite Auvergne, Charlesbourg, Quebec, Canada; died 26 Feb 1718 in Charlesbourg, Quebec, Canada; married Marie Anne VIVIER 07 Jan 1704 in Charlesbourg, Quebec, Canada; born 24 Jun 1682 in Charlesbourg, Quebec, Canada.
1025 ii. Marguerite TESSIER, married Jean BERTRAND 10 Sep 1685 in Charlesbourg, Quebec.
2052. Mathurin MEUNIER, born 1620 in Clermont, Creans, La Fleche, France; died Abt. 1680 in Chateau Richer, Quebec, Canada. He was the son of 4104. Rene MEUNIER and 4105. Marie LEROUX. He married 2053. Francoise FAFART 03 Nov 1647 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
2053. Francoise FAFART, born 1623 in Saint J.B., D'Argences, Caen, France; died 13 Jan 1702 in Beaupre, Quebec, Canada. She was the daughter of 4106. Jean FAFART and 4107. Elisabeth TIBOU.
Children of Mathurin MEUNIER and Francoise FAFART are:
1026 i. Mathurin MEUNIER, born 03 Dec 1649 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada; married Marie Madeleine MENEUX 22 Nov 1684 in Sainte Famille, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada.
ii. Jean Joseph MEUNIER, born 08 Jan 1651 in Trois Rivieres, Quebec; married Marguerite HOUSSEAU 05 Oct 1670 in Beaupre, Quebec; born Abt. 1652 in St. Jean, Troyes, Champagne (Aube), France.
iii. Francoise MEUNIER, born 13 Sep 1653 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada; died 18 Jan 1703 in Saint Laurent, I.O., Quebec, Canada; married Charles POULIOT 05 Jun 1667 in Beaupre, Quebec, Canada; born 09 Apr 1628 in SaintComeDeVair, Mamers, Le Mans, France; died 06 Aug 1699 in Saint Laurent, I.O., Quebec, Canada.
iv. Elisabeth MEUNIER, born 17 Feb 1656 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada; died Aft. 1714 in Saint Laurent, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada; married Isaac PAQUET 30 Jun 1670 in Chateau Richer, Quebec, Canada; born 1635 in Saint Jean, Montaigu, LaRocheSurYon, France; died 18 Jun 1702 in Saint Laurent, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada.
v. Marguerite MEUNIER, born 04 Aug 1659 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada; married Pierre LABBE 10 Apr 1674 in Beaupre, Quebec, Canada; born 30 Jun 1643 in Notre Dame, Marais Laferte, Bernard Mamers, France; died 04 Jan 1709 in Saint Francois, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada.
2054. Jacques MENEUX, born 1640 in Chateau Giron, Rennes, Bretagne, France; died 19 Dec 1690 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada. He was the son of 4108. Jean MENEUX and 4109. Jeanne TROCHON. He married 2055. Marguerite PEUVRIER 23 Oct 1663 in Chateau Richer, Quebec, Canada.
2055. Marguerite PEUVRIER, born 1638 in Saint Severin, Paris, France; died 10 Jan 1709 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada. She was the daughter of 4110. Nicholas Le PEUVRIER and 4111. Marguerite BOURGEOIS.
Children of Jacques MENEUX and Marguerite PEUVRIER are:
1027 i. Marie Madeleine MENEUX, born Abt. 1669 in Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada; died 23 Mar 1703 in L'Ancienne Loret, Quebec, Canada; married Mathurin MEUNIER 22 Nov 1684 in Sainte Famille, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada.
ii. Francoise MENEUX, born 20 Apr 1676 in Ste.Famille, I.O., Quebec; married Michel PELLETIER 09 Jul 1697 in Ste.Famille, I.O., Quebec; born 1674 in Sorel, Quebec.
iii. Angelique MENEUX, born 16 Mar 1678; married Joseph LEVESQUE 26 Nov 1704.
iv. Reine MENEU, born 28 Aug 1680 in Sainte Famille, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada; died 01 Nov 1747 in Saint Roch, Quebec, Canada; married Abraham Joseph OUELLET 25 Oct 1700 in Sainte Famille, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada; born 14 Apr 1667 in Sainte Famille, Ile de Orleans, Quebec, Canada.
v. Catherine MENEUX, born 25 Oct 1682; married Noel LIZOT 28 Feb 1702 in Riviere Ouelle, Quebec.
Generation No. 13
4100. Michel TESSIER He married 4101. Renee GORON.
4101. Renee GORON
Child of Michel TESSIER and Renee GORON is:
2050 i. Marc TESSIER, born 1642 in Sainte Hermine, FontenayLeComte, Lucon Poitou, France; died 22 Mar 1709 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada; married Jacquette LEDOUX 26 Nov 1668 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada.
4102. Jean LEDOUX He married 4103. Jeanne HIOUT.
4103. Jeanne HIOUT
Child of Jean LEDOUX and Jeanne HIOUT is:
2051 i. Jacquette LEDOUX, born 1640 in Esnandes, La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 09 Sep 1690 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada; married Marc TESSIER 26 Nov 1668 in Quebec, Quebec, Canada.
4104. Rene MEUNIER He married 4105. Marie LEROUX.
4105. Marie LEROUX
Child of Rene MEUNIER and Marie LEROUX is:
2052 i. Mathurin MEUNIER, born 1620 in Clermont, Creans, La Fleche, France; died Abt. 1680 in Chateau Richer, Quebec, Canada; married Francoise FAFART 03 Nov 1647 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
4106. Jean FAFART He married 4107. Elisabeth TIBOU.
4107. Elisabeth TIBOU
Child of Jean FAFART and Elisabeth TIBOU is:
2053 i. Francoise FAFART, born 1623 in Saint J.B., D'Argences, Caen, France; died 13 Jan 1702 in Beaupre, Quebec, Canada; married Mathurin MEUNIER 03 Nov 1647 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
4108. Jean MENEUX He married 4109. Jeanne TROCHON.
4109. Jeanne TROCHON
Child of Jean MENEUX and Jeanne TROCHON is:
2054 i. Jacques MENEUX, born 1640 in Chateau Giron, Rennes, Bretagne, France; died 19 Dec 1690 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada; married Marguerite PEUVRIER 23 Oct 1663 in Chateau Richer, Quebec, Canada.
4110. Nicholas Le PEUVRIER He married 4111. Marguerite BOURGEOIS.
4111. Marguerite BOURGEOIS
Child of Nicholas Le PEUVRIER and Marguerite BOURGEOIS is:
2055 i. Marguerite PEUVRIER, born 1638 in Saint Severin, Paris, France; died 10 Jan 1709 in Hotel Dieu Que., Quebec, Canada; married Jacques MENEUX 23 Oct 1663 in Chateau Richer, Quebec, Canada.
#5: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: Nuccia, Location: Toronto, Ontario, CanadaPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:42 am ---- James I had no idea you were doing Angelina's family history! Thats so cool since I think shes great. From time to time I get in the mood to do things like this for various actors or gangsters..
Keeps it fun, doesn't it?
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#6: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: JamesBianco, Location: Agawam, Massachusetts, USAPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:19 am ---- Well I was reading on a French Canadian Forum how everyone was stuck with her mother's line and decided to see what I could uncover, once back a few generations the line was established already by others on rootsweb. She is related to me almost a dozen times.
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#7: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: Nuccia, Location: Toronto, Ontario, CanadaPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:25 am ---- So what did you do with the info you found? Did you let them know?
Cool about the relation..
#8: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: JamesBianco, Location: Agawam, Massachusetts, USAPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:50 pm ----
Nuccia wrote:
So what did you do with the info you found? Did you let them know?
Cool about the relation..
I posted a link to this forum on a couple genealogy queries, which got me at least 3 exited emails.
Did you know nearly ALL French Canadians are related? There were a couple dozen very early and very prolific immigrants to "New France" in the early 1600's and (with very very few exceptions) we all descend from at least a couple of them. In this way Alanis Morrissette, Madonna, Celine Dion, Mark Wahlberg and Angelina Jolie all have common ancestors.
Pretty kool no?
#9: Re: New developments in the ancestry of Angelina Jolie Author: Nuccia, Location: Toronto, Ontario, CanadaPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:27 pm ---- Way cool.
I don't know that much about French Canadian relationships but so far I'm finding it very interesting...
Thanks James..Seems like I can learn a lot form you on this subject!